We can view the 6000 years of history as 50 days, each one the length of Moshe's life, 120 years. Alternatively, we can view history as a progression to the 50th Yovel that Am Yisrael counts, starting with the time of Ezra.

Such a count leads to the counts intersecting from 5727-5760, where generation number 48 overlaps. The overlap resumes at 5776 until the end of the 49th Yovel Cycle, which will definitely be completely contained by the 49th "Moshe Cycle".Perhaps we can use the significance of the synchronization to explain some calculations mentioned in Sanhedrin Perek Cheilek. If we count Yovel continuously from Yehoshua bin-Nun (starting in 2504), we find the first synchronization to be around the year 4300, fairly close to 2 of the calculations mentioned on Sanhedrin 97b.

Nice. Calculatng this by heart, the synchronization was at Yovel 36 in Moshe Cycle 36 and Yovel 37 in Moshe Cycle 37, 76 years altogether, 49 years starting with 4250 plus 26 years starting with 4321.

ReplyDeleteI meant: plus 27 years.

ReplyDeleteThe syncrhonization by the 85th Yovel is dependent on how one counts over Galut Bavel / Ezra. If you switch to 49 year cycles by Galut Bavel and don't switch back, it overlaps in 4250, the necessary year (85 * 50), but then not 4290, which you can get with a shiluv.

ReplyDeleteRegarding 4291, the wording seems to indicate an end of things. It might be 4292 in our count, as the Gemara suggests that it was written in an ancient document. Perhaps it refers to a keitz 42 years into the Yovel, or into overlap. If you take the latter, we finished 24 years of overlap before the yovel starts.

ReplyDeleteYou mean to imply 5769 (42 + 5727), correct?

ReplyDeleteThe political situation is shaping up eerily close to what was expected.

Actually, I was just exploring the logic. Rethinking it, 41 makes more sense in the flow of the Gemara, being that its implied 4250 would be 4251 in our count. In your proposal here, we should count reckon with 36th Yovel. Then, in your Shita of counting Yovel, year 4292 would be after 34 years of the Yovel. Perhaps we can say that we must count overlap years only and that the 34 years correspond to 10 years of Yovel 49, as we already finished 24 years of overlap in Yovel 48.

ReplyDeleteWithout the overlap idea, it also makes sense to look at the 36th official Yovel, splitting the 85 into 50 primordial ones before Yehoshua and 35 real ones after. Then, in your shita, before 4292 there would be 34 years, and according to the shita of Imrei Bina there would be 42 years, but both would end up the same.

ReplyDeleteThe overlaps seem to represent the Pekidah and the Zechirah, namely the Pekidah winding down, and then the Arab violence that began immediately thereafter. The bookends of the Pekidah, then, are Har HaBayit.

ReplyDeleteThat makes sense, ashreicha. The developments in the Knesset are as you say, eerily close.

ReplyDeleteAlso troubling are the developments that seem to be bringing the pilug per the mapping of David HaMelech.

ReplyDeleteDavid in Chevron. Moshiach in the Galil. It seems it has to be.

ReplyDeleteHalevai that it was just the pilug between the trein meshichin. I mean between Yehudah and Yisrael when David HaMelech rises to power.

ReplyDeleteI meant the same. Moshiach in the Galil is a reflection of David in Chevron. See what the Rasag writes in Emunot v'Deot, Maamar 8, Perek 5.

ReplyDeleteThis is the closest I found (since I'm not good at reading scanned versions of old books):

ReplyDeletehttp://www.daat.ac.il/daat/mahshevt/kapah/8-2.htm#5

Nonetheless, I think I understand what you're saying. He comes from the Galil davka because there is a separation in the Am and he can't come from Yerushalayim, which is why David started in Chevron on Yehudah and not on all Am Yisrael.

An interesting development that Effi Eitam wants to join the Likud, after badmouthing Moshe Feiglin for joining the Likud.